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  • Added on: October 13th, 2010
Does anyone know anything about this? I've seen it mentioned in some guidebooks but not in others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Am ... _Agreement

If I understand correctly, as a US Citizen, I get 90 days total in Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras and Nicaragua. And what do I do if I want more than 90 days?

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  • Added on: October 13th, 2010
That's correct. If you want more than 90 days, you can either extend it at an immigration office - Honduras will extend by 30 days in Tegucigalpa, or Guatemala will extend by 90 days in Guat City (don't know about El Salvador or Nicaragua), or, you can do a border hop to Mexico, Belize or Costa Rica and then re-enter and get another 90 day visa.

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  • Added on: October 13th, 2010
The usual gag is to cross the border into an Non Agreement country. I know a woman who lives on Utila who is convinced that paying the fine is better than the time and expense of the travel, but I wouldn't suggest it.
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  • Added on: October 14th, 2010
Thanks! I have a feeling I'll need less than 90 days, but it's good to know the rules and what my options are just in case.
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  • Added on: October 18th, 2010
Ok just let me fill in the gaps.
The C-4 agreement is part of the process to form a Central American block(similar to the E.C.) to benifit transportation of goods and people between the 4 countries that signed the agreement, Guatemala, El Salvador, Hondurus and Nicaragua(does not include Mexico, Belize, Costa Rica or Panama). At the country of entry make sure you ask for the 90 days, it is common for travelers to be given only 30, so just where ever your are arriving first and explain that you willbe traveling and need the 90 day maximun to complete your travels in C.A.
El Salvador is the only of the 4 countries that fully respects the agreement and will not charge an entry or exit fee that is common between Guatemala and Hondurus and Houdurus and Nicaragua(these soe what illegal fees range between $3-$7(if you are fully fluent in Spanish and have a few hours to spend at each border you may be able to get by with out paying, most people however just pay) The boarder crossing where this is common is Guatemala-Hondurous on the Atlanta coast crossing(close to Livingston) and the boarder crossing on the Pan American between Hondurous and Nicaguara.
If you know you will need more time your options are leave the C-4 country for a minimum of 72 hours(this is what most volunteers do) or apply for an extention. I have heard various stories here in El Salvador from being very easy and inexpensive to taking several visits and around $100, the friend who told me it was easy is an older women 70+ and fluent in Spanish, she got her extention in one day with no charge.
Ok if you need morte information about El Salvador feel free to post.
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  • Added on: October 19th, 2010
Hmmm!!

Cost me $10 US to enter El Salcador at Comalapa airport on Sept 10, 2010!!

Possibly you meant between the 4 countries, in which case you are correct as I wasn't charged coming in from Guatemala in July.
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  • Added on: December 11th, 2010
Hi, the other posters here are pretty spot on. When I had this experience, most people that I talked to advised me to leave the CA4 countries for 72 hours and re-enter, either Via Belize, Mexico or Costa Rica. This was not convinent at the time, given that I was in El Salvador. If you happen to be in that area, myself and several other travelers had very easy experiences renewing for a 2nd set of 90 days in San Salvador.

I've also heard that renewing at the Guatemala City office is not terribly difficult, but is a several day process. Honduras makes it trickier, from my understanding you HAVE to renew in Tegucigalpa and they most likely will only give you 30 days more, not the full 90 (which may or may not work for you depending on your situation). I did hear that you can renew in other parts of Honduras, but you'll have to go to Teguc anyway to have it validated, so might as well just do it there in the first place. I don't know anything about reneweing in Nicaragua.

I posted a thread that turned out to be very informative on the evil Thorntree, where I and several other commented on our El Salv experiences. Very detailed. Find it here... http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?threadID=1936386
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  • Added on: December 11th, 2010
Great info thanks 8-)
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  • Added on: January 30th, 2011
For Nicaragua, you can visit the immigration office in Managua and extend it for 30, 60, or 90 days.

$215 Cordobas for 30 days. Process is taken care of the same day.
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  • Added on: February 1st, 2011
bakpakaddict wrote:Hi, the other posters here are pretty spot on. When I had this experience, most people that I talked to advised me to leave the CA4 countries for 72 hours and re-enter, either Via Belize, Mexico or Costa Rica. This was not convinent at the time, given that I was in El Salvador. If you happen to be in that area, myself and several other travelers had very easy experiences renewing for a 2nd set of 90 days in San Salvador.

I've also heard that renewing at the Guatemala City office is not terribly difficult, but is a several day process. Honduras makes it trickier, from my understanding you HAVE to renew in Tegucigalpa and they most likely will only give you 30 days more, not the full 90 (which may or may not work for you depending on your situation). I did hear that you can renew in other parts of Honduras, but you'll have to go to Teguc anyway to have it validated, so might as well just do it there in the first place. I don't know anything about reneweing in Nicaragua.

I posted a thread that turned out to be very informative on the evil Thorntree, where I and several other commented on our El Salv experiences. Very detailed. Find it here... http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?threadID=1936386


The above info is correct from experience yesterday, however I was also asked for a copy of the deed to my property, was accompanied by an El Salvadorian so she was requested to fill out the recommendation form. As she didn't have her DUI with her & my deed was still at the lawyers, have to return today.

The officer also recommended being there at 07:30 but as the lawyer was out of the office yesterday, that's not going to happen.

edit: so got my passport back stamped 01 FEB, 2011 hasta 02 JUN, 2011 written in noventa dias methinks someone made a booboo :)
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