I don't care where.
What are some cheap schools you know about, have studied at or have heard about?
List 'em!
I'm considering studying abroad. After 2 years of school here (Canada), I'v decided I've heard enough sparknotes.com rehashings for awhile. I'm sick of spending thousands upon thousands of dollars for an English degree, when I'm learning virtually nothing I couldn't learn with a quick internet connection.
Money is an issue, though. So what are some cheaper schools? Europe, Asia, South America, Africa, whatever.
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- airin9
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I don't know any cheap schools..but I just wanted to tell you that I know what you are feeling...after 2 years, i realized I'm no where close to my goals in school and school was pretty much killing all the life in me. So, I'm moving to Australia in Februaury for school! But it is not cheap..my program cost is equivalent to studying at U of T or another ontario university.
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Yeah, foreign students is big business for Australian Universities with nmost offering special programs for and doing strong marketing to the asian market.
Mention that because you have mentioned asia and yes, I would suspect that studying in somewhere like Thailand or Malaysia could be cheaper.
The down side could be how well a degree from asoan universities may be recognised but maybe that is not so much a problem as Australia still has asian/indian professionals coming here and not all professionals from countries in that region would have studied abroad.
Be an interesting concept to look at, certainly get you exposed to a far different mix of cultures and the only other problem to be faced would be learning the asian language whereas India may be more likely to have courses in English.
Mention that because you have mentioned asia and yes, I would suspect that studying in somewhere like Thailand or Malaysia could be cheaper.
The down side could be how well a degree from asoan universities may be recognised but maybe that is not so much a problem as Australia still has asian/indian professionals coming here and not all professionals from countries in that region would have studied abroad.
Be an interesting concept to look at, certainly get you exposed to a far different mix of cultures and the only other problem to be faced would be learning the asian language whereas India may be more likely to have courses in English.
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gonorth - Extra Pages in Passport
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i studied in salamanca, spain last year and while study abroad companies and programs for foreigners can be expensive, if you directly enroll independetly, it can be something like 1,000 euro for the whole year (doesn't include apartment, etc). but, i am sure european state schools in some countries are cheaper than in n. america. kudos to you for leaving and going somewhere else. i am back for my senior year of college and after a year abroad it's like pulling teeth for me to get up and go to boring finance classes every day.
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marissabarresi - Lost in Place
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I'm afraid I can only tell you about European University costs, but here it goes.
Basically you pay a lot less money for the classes, but in some countries you will only be allowed to work limited hours.
Nearly every European University offers their courses in English, and you can always follow classes on the local language.
UK = expensive from a Europeans point of view. In France for example you pay approx 800$ a year in tuition, then you would only have to pay for living expences and books.
In Norway, Sweden and Finland you pay approx 55$ a year in tuition, and I believe public transport is free. They are know for offereing nearly every course in English, sometimes they have courses in English that they do not have in the local language. However living costs in Noway are quite a bit higher then the rest of Europe.
The Netherlands: you pay approx 1700$ for a year, and the quality is high (as is in most of Europe) I believe Tilburg's University's Economics department is the best in the world. (I actually live close to that city normally, though now abroad myself)
There's tonns of info to be found on the internet about this, I've barely scratched the surface on the matter.
Hope this helps.
Basically you pay a lot less money for the classes, but in some countries you will only be allowed to work limited hours.
Nearly every European University offers their courses in English, and you can always follow classes on the local language.
UK = expensive from a Europeans point of view. In France for example you pay approx 800$ a year in tuition, then you would only have to pay for living expences and books.
In Norway, Sweden and Finland you pay approx 55$ a year in tuition, and I believe public transport is free. They are know for offereing nearly every course in English, sometimes they have courses in English that they do not have in the local language. However living costs in Noway are quite a bit higher then the rest of Europe.
The Netherlands: you pay approx 1700$ for a year, and the quality is high (as is in most of Europe) I believe Tilburg's University's Economics department is the best in the world. (I actually live close to that city normally, though now abroad myself)
There's tonns of info to be found on the internet about this, I've barely scratched the surface on the matter.
Hope this helps.
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I rarely post on these boards, but this issue definitely hits close to home. I am currently trudging through school with my eyes focused on the prize, an associate's degree. I know I want more education, but I can't commit for an entire 4, 6, whatever amount of years. So I want to get my associate's FIRST, then transfer when the time is right and the $$ is there.
ANYWAY, my point is, what is the policy on European schools (or any international schools, really) accepting foreign students? Do we have to pay more? Get some sort of residency thing, as is the case in the US to prevent paying ungodly amounts of money for 'out of state' tuition?
Just curious...gracias
Katie
ANYWAY, my point is, what is the policy on European schools (or any international schools, really) accepting foreign students? Do we have to pay more? Get some sort of residency thing, as is the case in the US to prevent paying ungodly amounts of money for 'out of state' tuition?
Just curious...gracias
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Moiraine - Thorn Tree Refugee
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I am looking to start my undergrad degree aboard.
Its much harder to be accepted this way than if you have a year or two of American college behind you.
Some countries have an out of EU or out of Country rate (Very Roughly USD 20,000/year) These include: Denmark, New Zealand, Austraillia... many others.
Schools in Germany, Sweden and so on are virutally free if you can get in, which can prove very difficult, escepially with only an American High School Diploma... (You still have to pay for the cost of living, but, you can worked limited hours in most cases to pay for that)
Anyone know anything more??? What about Ireland/UK schools??
Its much harder to be accepted this way than if you have a year or two of American college behind you.
Some countries have an out of EU or out of Country rate (Very Roughly USD 20,000/year) These include: Denmark, New Zealand, Austraillia... many others.
Schools in Germany, Sweden and so on are virutally free if you can get in, which can prove very difficult, escepially with only an American High School Diploma... (You still have to pay for the cost of living, but, you can worked limited hours in most cases to pay for that)
Anyone know anything more??? What about Ireland/UK schools??
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Brambles24601 - Street Food Connoisseur
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In some countries you will have to pay more tuition than an EU citizen.
The difficulty of getting accepted varies per university. In some cases they require you speak the local language, in which case you'll have to do a language course in your home country, or you can do one with the university. Getting in will be more work, the best way to go about this is to pick a country where you want to study, choose the area, look for a fun university, see if they offer anything you like, and then contact the international students desk. Almost every university will have one. Anyways, pick the country first, the uni second.
Some universities in europe, have a campus. But there are also quite a few that do not, you'll have to rent a room.
Hope this helps a bit.
The difficulty of getting accepted varies per university. In some cases they require you speak the local language, in which case you'll have to do a language course in your home country, or you can do one with the university. Getting in will be more work, the best way to go about this is to pick a country where you want to study, choose the area, look for a fun university, see if they offer anything you like, and then contact the international students desk. Almost every university will have one. Anyways, pick the country first, the uni second.
Some universities in europe, have a campus. But there are also quite a few that do not, you'll have to rent a room.
Hope this helps a bit.
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jaydeschizo - Lost in Place
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I think international students have to pay more at most universities, it's certainly true in Australia.
See if your university has an exchange scheme, you pay your own expenses, but tuition is covered by your own university's fees, which I think works out cheaper in many cases. There are also often scholarships available for these programs. I think they last either one or two semesters.
My Brother is telling me that he thinks university in Cuba is free, but again, that may just be for citizens.
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See if your university has an exchange scheme, you pay your own expenses, but tuition is covered by your own university's fees, which I think works out cheaper in many cases. There are also often scholarships available for these programs. I think they last either one or two semesters.
My Brother is telling me that he thinks university in Cuba is free, but again, that may just be for citizens.
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EmmaEgg - Holds PhD in Packing
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Thanks for the information. I'm currently doing another semester here in British Columbia, and it seems every single day it gets worse and worse. My grades are slipping due to complete lack of interest, and I'm so sick of the Sparknotes.com-esque lectures I'm getting.
I'll definitely take some of the advice here into consideration.
Some of you guys mention schools that teach in English in Europe. Could you possibly list any? I've just done a bit of googling, and all of them are in native tongue, so far. Minust he American University of ____ type schools, which have ridiculously high tuition fees.
Thanks a bunch. Very helpful.
I'll definitely take some of the advice here into consideration.
Some of you guys mention schools that teach in English in Europe. Could you possibly list any? I've just done a bit of googling, and all of them are in native tongue, so far. Minust he American University of ____ type schools, which have ridiculously high tuition fees.
Thanks a bunch. Very helpful.
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Er, I guess I could elaborate on something
Ideally, I'd love to live in France. But I don't speak French.
I'd love Greece, Italy, Spain, Sweden or Poland, as well. I'd consider almost any, except the UK.
Unfortunately I only speak English and want to study English (literature or creative writing), so I know that limits me a lot :\
Ideally, I'd love to live in France. But I don't speak French.
I'd love Greece, Italy, Spain, Sweden or Poland, as well. I'd consider almost any, except the UK.
Unfortunately I only speak English and want to study English (literature or creative writing), so I know that limits me a lot :\
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I believe Sweden's higher education is almost completely in English. However, If you really want to go to France, do not worry about the language at all. I've actually researched France quite a bit myself, and it seems that nearly every university offers a internation students course in French in the summers, before school starts. In most cases they are even mandatory.
http://www.edufrance.fr/en/
This website can help you with a lot. I believe it is from the french governent aimed at international students.
I must add however, all my previous posts were from a European perspective, as a European citizen I might be entitles to "normal" tuition fees. I'm not sure if it makes that much difference though.
Another word of advise, if you go abroad, it will be a wonderful, and at first scary, experience. But if you are willing and open you will make friends for life. Even if it might be expensive, keep in mind this is the only life you can have such adventures in. Do it while you are still young. Not that I'm old I'm only 20, but it's just my perspective of things. If you'd like some more info, you're also welcome to email me. If you would like my email adress just send me a note.
Good luck.
http://www.edufrance.fr/en/
This website can help you with a lot. I believe it is from the french governent aimed at international students.
I must add however, all my previous posts were from a European perspective, as a European citizen I might be entitles to "normal" tuition fees. I'm not sure if it makes that much difference though.
Another word of advise, if you go abroad, it will be a wonderful, and at first scary, experience. But if you are willing and open you will make friends for life. Even if it might be expensive, keep in mind this is the only life you can have such adventures in. Do it while you are still young. Not that I'm old I'm only 20, but it's just my perspective of things. If you'd like some more info, you're also welcome to email me. If you would like my email adress just send me a note.
Good luck.
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Ok kids, I think there's a couple of statements here that need clarification:
1. There's no such thing as an associates degree in the EU that I've ever heard of. Matter of fact, in some countries you can't even do a bachelors and have to do the whole masters from the get go.
2. Yes education is cheaper in countries that are social democracies. But (non-EU) foreigners do pay a bit more and they have the double whammy of possibly not being allowed to work while on their student visas. Also, many countries will only give you a student visa if you can show that you have been accepted to the university AND can support yourself financially while you are here.
3. Maybe the Netherlands is different, but from what I've seen in Gemrany, Austria, Italy and France lectures at the public universities are held in the native language. This changes only at the graduate and post-doc level. These higher programes are often totally mixed in that many of the grads and profs come from various countries, so the working language is English. But it doesn't sound like most of you are looking for a post-doc opportunity.
4. there are a whole bunch of private american universities located throughout Europe which operate entirely in English but they are normally as expensive as a private university in the states. Some of these are perfectly good institutions, others don't even have accredidation in Europe. SO choose carefully.
5, And this is the most important point: I think you guys are barking up the wrong tree. Figure out a plan for your education based on quality and where you want to go. If that happens to include an international university then great. If it doesn't that's fine too. But anyone who would write "I'm learning virtually nothing I couldn't learn with a quick internet connection" has never experienced the benefits of a really good professor and the kind of environment created when you get to study with other people who share your interests. It's this process of learning together that is invaluable and can't be replaced by the internet. (E-learning is a great addition to a traditional classroom, but a horrible substitute.) If you're not getting it at your current university, then find one that's better.
1. There's no such thing as an associates degree in the EU that I've ever heard of. Matter of fact, in some countries you can't even do a bachelors and have to do the whole masters from the get go.
2. Yes education is cheaper in countries that are social democracies. But (non-EU) foreigners do pay a bit more and they have the double whammy of possibly not being allowed to work while on their student visas. Also, many countries will only give you a student visa if you can show that you have been accepted to the university AND can support yourself financially while you are here.
3. Maybe the Netherlands is different, but from what I've seen in Gemrany, Austria, Italy and France lectures at the public universities are held in the native language. This changes only at the graduate and post-doc level. These higher programes are often totally mixed in that many of the grads and profs come from various countries, so the working language is English. But it doesn't sound like most of you are looking for a post-doc opportunity.
4. there are a whole bunch of private american universities located throughout Europe which operate entirely in English but they are normally as expensive as a private university in the states. Some of these are perfectly good institutions, others don't even have accredidation in Europe. SO choose carefully.
5, And this is the most important point: I think you guys are barking up the wrong tree. Figure out a plan for your education based on quality and where you want to go. If that happens to include an international university then great. If it doesn't that's fine too. But anyone who would write "I'm learning virtually nothing I couldn't learn with a quick internet connection" has never experienced the benefits of a really good professor and the kind of environment created when you get to study with other people who share your interests. It's this process of learning together that is invaluable and can't be replaced by the internet. (E-learning is a great addition to a traditional classroom, but a horrible substitute.) If you're not getting it at your current university, then find one that's better.
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A friend sent me to this site called brain track which is a good listing of universities throughout the world by country. I haven't gone through it as thoroughly as I'd like to yet, and wouldn't be looking for undergrad programs anyway...so who knows, but it's worth a try.
I'd add yet another caution about counting on learning another language in order to attend a university in another country: that's really hard
I absolutely agree that taking local language lessons should be high on the list. And passing some kind of test on the language is one thing, but actually following a university-level course in that language is quite another. That said, I did meet a guy who learned Slovene as an adult and was in the process of getting some post-graduate degree in Slovenia and in Slovene. Wow.
I'd add yet another caution about counting on learning another language in order to attend a university in another country: that's really hard
I absolutely agree that taking local language lessons should be high on the list. And passing some kind of test on the language is one thing, but actually following a university-level course in that language is quite another. That said, I did meet a guy who learned Slovene as an adult and was in the process of getting some post-graduate degree in Slovenia and in Slovene. Wow.
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