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Curmudgeon (Moderator)
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A place for news items concerning those brave folks who keep our skies safe (but make you remove your shoes).
 
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Houston police and the federal Transportation Security Administration disagree over who is responsible for allowing a man with what appeared to be bomb components board an aircraft at Hobby Airport last week.

Although the FBI eventually cleared the man of wrongdoing, police officials have transferred the officer involved and are investigating the incident while insisting that the TSA, not police, has the authority to keep a suspicious person from boarding a flight.

"Our job is not to be the gatekeepers," police Capt. Dwayne Ready said. "That burden falls squarely on the airline and TSA to make that final decision.

"We are looking at our role in the situation to make sure our policies were adhered to," he said. "During follow-up, we are finding that there simply was not a material threat."

TSA spokeswoman Andrea McCauley said screeners have the authority to stop people from going beyond the checkpoint to the boarding areas, but they rely heavily on local police.

"It's just agencies talking with each other," Ready said, downplaying the disagreement.

Details of the dispute
McCauley and Ready would not comment about the June 26 incident, but a confidential TSA report obtained by the Houston Chronicle details a dispute between screeners and a police officer on duty at the airport.

The report states that a man with a Middle Eastern name and a ticket for a Delta Airlines flight to Atlanta shook his head when screeners asked if he had a laptop computer in his baggage, but an X-ray machine operator detected a laptop.

A search of the man's baggage revealed a clock with a 9-volt battery taped to it and a copy of the Quran, the report said. A screener examined the man's shoes and determined that the "entire soles of both shoes were gutted out."

No explosive material was detected, the report states. A police officer was summoned and questioned the man, examined his identification, shoes and the clock, then cleared him for travel, according to the report.

A TSA screener disagreed with the officer, saying "the shoes had been tampered with and there were all the components of (a bomb) except the explosive itself," the report says.

The officer retorted, "I thought y'all were trained in this stuff," TSA officials reported.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/4033752.html
 
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Static, where do you find all of this stuff?


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I never reveal my sources. Someday, somebody will hire me to find this stuff for them.
 
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CG, I'll tell you for free, but then again, hmmmm
Just try CNN, BBC, ABC, FOX, Reuters, all those online news agencies - saw that one on somebodys site.
 
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I soooooo did not need to read that this morning...catching a flight in a few hours. Yikes.


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So the deal is, no babies or respected senators with suspicious names, but men with bomb components are OK?

Hey, at least the "war on terror" has its priorities straight.
 
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I managed to confuse the TSA by carrying Groucho Marx glasses in my carry-on. Big Grin



Like that is going to fool anybody!

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Banned lighters might fly again
Airport screeners across the nation have confiscated 16 million of the devices in one year.


As a smoker, Beth Nettels sympathizes with travelers whose cigarette lighters are seized at the airport.

So, before boarding a flight, she tries helping the next passenger. She leaves her lighter on a bench outside the terminal. It’s a tiny act of generosity she thinks should be unnecessary.

“Lighters are not a risk,” the University of Kansas student said last week as she puffed on a cigarette outside Terminal C at Kansas City International Airport. “You can take matches aboard a plane and they can start something.”

Federal regulators are starting to see things Nettels’ way.

Momentum is building to lift the ban, which took effect in April 2005. Since then, security screeners have confiscated 16 million lighters, which typically cost $1 to $2 each unless they are luxury models.

It costs the government $6 million to dispose of the lighters, about $4 million more than it cost to get rid of all confiscated items before the lighter ban, according to the Transportation Security Administration.
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Fliers bare their soles on checkpoint woes

Devon Hall says she didn't know she had her husband's fishing knife in her bag when she approached the security checkpoint at Houston's Hobby Airport last month.

The Jamaica Beach, Texas, comedian surrendered the knife after it showed up on the scanner, she says. She thought that was the end of the matter until she received a letter from the Transportation Security Administration saying she owed a $250 fine, reduced to $125 if paid within 30 days.

Hall was shocked: "It was a mistake, but it's going to cost me. All of us that travel a lot need to know (a fine is possible)."

Bringing a prohibited item to a checkpoint — even accidentally — is illegal, according to the TSA. Your confiscated Swiss army knife probably won't draw a fine, TSA spokeswoman Amy Von Walter says. "We're looking at items that are weapons ... or aggravated circumstances, such as interfering with a screener."

Von Walter says screeners don't decide on the spot who'll be fined; their reports are reviewed by a higher-up, who determines whether a "notice of violation" will be sent.

Her experience and that of other fliers show how confusion still marks the post-9/11 airport security-screening experience. Despite TSA's efforts to clarify what is allowed and what is not at security checkpoints, uncertainty and frustration still are in the air.
 
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You may have to unpack those manicure scissors from your baggage.

Again.

Less than seven months after the Transportation Security Administration reversed its ban on small scissors, screwdrivers and such from passenger cabins on commercial airliners, Rep. Ed Markey, D-Mass., slipped an amendment into a House bill for the TSA that would make such items verboten again.

Last December, the TSA relaxed its rules because of improvements in cabin security post-Sept. 11, 2001, when terrorists used box cutters to commandeer four airplanes. But the nation's major flight attendants' unions, saying that sharp items in the hands of troubled passengers remain a peril, have been lobbying to reinstate them.

The House homeland security committee bought into the ban last week, but its ultimate fate remains up in the air.

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Stop the madness. Please stop the madness.
 
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Oh no! I am just beginning. I just (heart) the TSA!

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The federal Transportation Security Administration employs 43,000 screeners nationwide, 260 at Pittsburgh International Airport. As many as one in five screeners leave their jobs because advancement opportunities were limited. For every screener who leaves, TSA has to spend an estimated $12,000 to recruit and train a new one.

Entry-level screeners currently earn between $23,600 and $35,400 a year, but with the promotion, they will be able to make up to $40,700. Screeners with at least two years' experience will be able to compete for an expanded number of specialized positions that pay up to $56,400.

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Thousands re-screened after airport security breach

SANTA ANA, Calif. (AP) — Both terminals at John Wayne Airport were temporarily evacuated Sunday evening and passengers were taken off airplanes after a female passenger made it past a security checkpoint without being screened, authorities said.

Hundreds of travelers — even those aboard airplanes — were required to undergo a second security check, said Nico Melendez of the Transportation Security Administration.

Six outgoing flights were delayed as passengers were re-screened and put back on the planes, Melendez said. Authorities did not provide details Sunday night about who slipped past security or how she managed to do so.

An alarm sounded shortly after 5:30 p.m. and Orange County Sheriff's deputies and airport security began evacuating the terminals. Lines snaked out the doors as travelers lined up again in front of checkpoints.
 
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Marshals: Innocent People Placed On 'Watch List' To Meet Quota

"Innocent passengers are being entered into an international intelligence database as suspicious persons, acting in a suspicious manner on an aircraft ... and they did nothing wrong," said one federal air marshal.
 
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Oh no! I am just beginning. I just (heart) the TSA!



I was speaking to the TSA, not you Joe. You could write a book with these stories, but John Q. Typicaltraveler LOVES the TSA. In fact I'm sure the US airline industry would be all but completely liquidated if not for these shining stars keeping us safe. Seriously. Sad but true.

Keep em coming!
 
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I am not so sure that John Q. Typicaltraveler loves the TSA.

I keep looking for someone (either liberal or conservative) who thinks that this is all worth it and I keep failing.

No politician can risk exposing the scam for what it is, lest they be seen as being soft of terrorism.

I have flown in heaps of dodgy countries since 9/11. Nobody does security like we do, and I don't mean that in a good way.
I would rather fly in Germany, England or Vietnam than fly in the USA. Are those countries known for having lax security? Not at all. But somehow, people are able to clear security with respect, unlike the job done by our TSA.

The terrorists have won.
 
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I cannot count the number of conversations I've heard mostly in airports, but also in many other places that go something like this:

"Yeah it's a hassle but I'd rather be safe" or
"I'm really glad they have finally increased security" or
"Sure it takes more time in security, but that's just *the way it is these days*"

The shoe fetish pissed quite a few people off when it first started, but now no one bats an eye.

And yes, the terrorists won big-time when the stock market tanked on 9/12, when so many of our constitutional freedoms were taken away, when our govt. allowed our airlines to plunge into bankruptcy, when gas goes up every time Iran's pres opens his mouth, etc, etc.

The worst part of it is that it's OUR fault. None of those things needed to happen.

Now, back to TSA bashing. I'm sure there will be no shortage of new material.
 
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Man strip searched for packing overactive thyroid gland

US border patrol steps over the line

A man who had receieved radiotherapy set off alarms at US airport security and was detained, interrogated and strip searched.

A report in the British Medical Journal says the 46-year-old had been treated with radioiodine for thyroid problems six weeks prior to the incident.

Learning of the invasive episode, the man's doctors trawled medical journals and found details of four earlier incident of radiotherapeutics triggering security alerts. Reports last year revealed heart patients given thallium for medical imaging could have a similar effect on airport scanners.

The authors of the report said: "Airports worldwide are deploying more sensitive radiation detection systems and one would therefore expect more such cases."

Radioiodine is used in cases of overactive thyroid gland, administered as a drink. It is transported in the bloodstream to the thymyus, where the radioactivity kills some cells, bringing the condition under control. Around 10,000 are given the treatment annually in the UK.

Its thought scanners could detect the iodine up to 12 weeks after the treatment. The authors call for patients to be warned they could face the rubber glove when travelling.®


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A search of the man's baggage revealed a clock with a 9-volt battery taped to it and a copy of the Quran

Stupidest Terrorist Ever.

(Even with no profiling going on)

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No politician can risk exposing the scam for what it is, lest they be seen as being soft of terrorism.

Static, I don't think I've ever agreed with you as strongly as I do on this point.

Bomb-making components do need to be kept off of airplanes, but the authorities have gone way, way overboard, for exactly the reason you mention. Newsflash: if people can take over airplanes with boxcutters, they can take them over with pens held to throats.

That flushing sound you hear is money spent on 'extra security' going down the toilet.


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