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Two great pieces on two superb books.

Richard Price has long been my favourite American novelist. He published his first work, The Wanderers when he was 24 and has only gotten better. Check out Ladies Man if you get the chance. His genre is urban fiction; he wrote the screenplay to The Color of Money and the novels Clockers, Freedomland, and Blood Brothers. This review, talks about his book Samaritan

This piece, published in The New York Review of Books by Joan Didion, herself a first-rate writer of non-fiction, deals with V.S. Naipauls' The Return of Eva Peron with the Killings in Trinidad. Highly recomended.

Striking passage from this piece made me think of several recent discussions here:

Argentina is a place where "jargon ends by competing with jargon," where the guerrillas have imported Paris dreams of revolution and remain trapped in a sinister mimicry of "the social-intellectual diversions of the north." Uruguay was wasted by a European idea, the dream of a welfare state imposed early in the century by José Batlle y Ordóñez "after a visit to Switzerland." Even Michael Abdul Malik, the Trinidadian hustler deranged by the cons he worked in London, is or was a victim: "At every stage of his career he was supported by some kind of jargon and could refer his actions to some kind of revolutionary ideal."

The story of Michael Abdul Malik, or Michael X, born Michael de Freitas in Trinidad in 1933, was for Naipaul one of those dense situations in which a writer finds his every concern refracted. Malik spent the years between 1957 and 1971 in London, first pimping and dealing and getting by as best he could and finally chancing into the Sixties role of black leader, black poet, black writer; "the authentic voice of black bitterness," according to Colin McGlashan in The Observer in 1965. In 1967 he was jailed for an anti-white speech he made at Reading. In 1969 he was given money for a commune in Islington, which failed. In 1971 he came home to Trinidad and managed to float another such commune.

By early 1972, three people associated with the commune were dead, two of them Trinidadian lieutenants in Malik's Black Liberation Army and one of them a twenty-seven-year-old English divorcee named Gale Benson, and, in May of 1975, Malik was hanged for murder in Port of Spain. He left incoherent fragments of a "novel" in which a romantic black hero wins the abject admiration of the narrator, a young English woman named Lena Boyd-Richardson. (Inspecting the hero's bookshelf, Lena Boyd-Richardson is impressed at finding "Salammbo that masterpiece of Flaubert's" free of dust. "I discover that he not only have the books but actually reads and understands them I was absolutely bowld, litteraly. I took a seat, and gazed upon this marvel, Mike.") He also left the many interviews in which he had explained his political philosophy. "The only politics I ever understand is the politics of revolution," as he had told the Trinidad Express. "The politics of change, the politics of a completely new system."

In view of Malik's derangement the words "revolution, change, system" are of course seen by Naipaul as "London words, London abstractions," and in his account of the killings in Trinidad it is ultimately these London words that kill not only Gale Benson and the other casualties of Malik's fantasy but Malik himself. "Malik thought he shared the security of his supporters," Naipaul observes of Malik's London career. "He failed to understand that section of the middle class that knows only that it is secure, has no views, only reflexes and scattered irritations, and sometimes indulges in play: the people who keep up with 'revolution' as with the theater…the people for whom Malik's kind of Black Power was an exotic but safe brothel."

It is toward precisely this section of the secure middle class, toward the exporters rather than the importers of the rhetoric, that Naipaul directs the profound disgust that he is sometimes accused of feeling for the victims of the words, for the casualties of the abstractions, for the Maliks of the "emerging" world. He keeps a kind of terrible track. He lets no one off. He does not forget Jill Tweedie, in The Guardian, quoting with approval the American Black Muslim whose lunacy came to fuel Malik's own on the killing-ground that was the compound in Trinidad: " 'They call me a nigger but I've invented my own kind of nigger. My nigger is me, excruciatingly handsome, tantalizingly brown, fiercely articulate.' " He does not overlook John Lennon visiting the Trinidad commune as Malik's guest in 1971. He details the literary advice Malik received from someone in England to whom he had shown a draft of his autobiography: "Use South Africa, Rhodesia, England, Portugal and America to speak of the heartlessness of white society. Use slavery, use the recent massacre of the Jews at Auschwitz and Belsen…. Chapter 15 You ought to close powerfully, frighteningly perhaps, on 'This I Believe.' Your own true statement of one displaced black man in this particular context of history…."

He will not exempt even Gale Benson, the English woman who got herself knifed and shoved in her shallow grave before she was completely dead: "Everything that is remembered of Benson in Trinidad suggests the great uneducated vanity of the middle-class dropout…. Perhaps the motive for the killing lay only in that: the surprise, a secure life ending in an extended moment of terror." This entire narrative about the killings in Trinidad, the situation Naipaul later rendered into fiction as Guerrillas, exists as a way of wishing bad cess not to Malik but to "all those who helped to make Malik…those who continue to simplify the world and reduce other men—not only the Negro—to a cause, the people who substitute doctrine for knowledge and irritation for concern, the revolutionaries who visit centers of revolution with return air tickets, the hippies, the people who wish themselves on societies more fragile than their own, all those people who in the end do no more than celebrate their own security.

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Great!! Thanks Barukh.

As soon as I feel like congratulating myself for not helping people and not being a hippy- these are at the top of my list.

Warm regards,
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all those people who in the end do no more than celebrate their own security.


I don't want to go into all the ideological debates touched on in the article. But I do want to say that if Gale Beson left her secure British home to live in a commune in Trinidad, I cannot imagine this to be a celebration of her security. Barukh, you of all people must be aware that racism finds some of it's strongest expressions in sexual stereotypes and must know that - if anything - Benson probably had to fight against a paranoia among other white folks of what would happened to her if she went and lived as a white woman amongst black men. The position of white Europeans or North Americans might be secure in power and money and priviledge, but that's very different from what happened to Benson. If we're going to analyze these situations (which I think is good) we cannot forget to make a difference between groups as a whole and individuals. Don't forget that even today one of the strongest arguments against women leaving their homes alone (whether for travel, or moving to a commune in Trinidad or anything else) is the danger presented by men. And black men are painted in the worst light of all where this is concerned.
 
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So, Barukh.

Did Benson help create this one man (bad guy), or did she 'wish herself on a society more fragile than her own'.

Are we now equating Trinidad with this X guy?
Is he a society that was more fragile? I don't follow.

All I see is a paragraph that starts by saying someone got themselves (hmm) knifed and buried alive by an extremist, and ends up talking about people wishing themselves on fragile societies. What's the connection?
 
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'Benson probably had to fight against a paranoia among other white folks of what would happened to her if she went and lived as a white woman amongst black men.'

Actually it was rather the opposite. Benson had gone to live in Maliks' commune after living with him for a time in London; by that time she had taken the name Hale Kinga and was prone to wearing African garb. Now remember this was in the 60's, and in London and for a certain presenct of people, mimicry and identification with the angry negro had a countercultural appeal. Instead of being encouraged not to go, she was seen as brave. It was a sham, Malik X had packaged himself to the white intelligentsia (the academics, the 'middle class dropouts and hippies') as the real deal and by aligning themselves with him, were felt they doing their part to rectify the injustices of society.

Tom Wolfe, in his short and lucid essay Mau Mauing the Flak Catchers writes about the conductor Leo Bernstein having a party to raise money for the Black Panthers. Norman Mailer, in The White Negro writes about the white 'hipsters' (this was the 60's) obsession with black authenticity.

But this goes beyond race. In the case of Trinidad it had much to do with the emptiness of Island societies, with decolonization, with imported ideas imposed on immature societies, with intellectual abstractions of power and rightness. Malik X cane along at the right time. He had a dynamic personality, a charisma..The case of Malik X in Trinidad was symptomatic of what has happening all over the developing world at that time.

These societies, at great cost sent their best and brightest to Western universities and societies in the hopes they would return and put the country back on track. Nothing of the sort happened, these young men went off to New York, London and Paris and learned this useless radical garbage, swallowed it whole, then went back to create havoc.

This was the case mostly for Africa, but similarities occur in Trinidad. Only in London, amongst wealthy white liberals would Malik X be seen as authentic. There he received money, encouragement (a piano from John Lennon), literary advice...the notion that he was doing the right thing.
 
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Hey there Barukh! It's me again
*waves*

Thanks so much for pointing out my typo on that other thread. I had TWO D's a the end of Brad's name. Can you believe it?

(Believe is another word that I often spell wrong, not a typo- I actually spell it wrong.)

Anyway, I didn 't realize that this topic of spelling/typing interested you.

At first when I read your recommended book list laden with comical errors in spelling and typing, I thought, Wow, how cool that Barukh doesn't care about spelling!

Now that I know that you appreciate feedback on this sort of thing, I have taken the liberty to post here some things that you may want to watch in the future, or edit now.


Let's start with this one in a recent thread about girl/guy ratios in certain locales. You wrote:
"Complex mathmatical ratio's"

This would be "mathematical" and you certainly do not need to show owenership with the word "ratio" here, it is only plural.

Next:
"has it's own " : This would be "its" with no contraction.
"it's" stands for it is. "Its" means a thing owning something.

Next:
"we are better them them"
Probably a typo, but the first "them" should probably be "than" which means that you got two letters wrong.

Next:
Ahh this is one of my favorites, becuase it's right in the middle of a condescending remark
"oh, your going to travel, splendid"

The "your" here, should be "you are", or "you're". Contractions again.

Here's a couple more on the contractions:
"And your not buying"
"if your Jewish "
(These would need to be 'you are'.)

Next:
"presenct of people"
This may be "precinct", but I'm not sure. But "presenct" is not a word unless it's ( or it is) foreign.

Next:
"Malik X cane along at the right time"
Oh! You're my typo soul mate Barukh! You put an N instead of an M in 'came', you silly goose!

Next:"symptomatic of what has happening all over the developing world at that time. "

I think that should be "was"! Nudge, nudge, wink wink.

Next:"Aesthetic Judgement of Arosal: An Experamental Contribution to
Psycho-Aesthetics by G. Snets"

We won't get in to what "Arosal" is, but I believe that it's "Experimental".

Next:"Foundations of Socil Theory by J.S. Coleman"

Ha ha you forgot the a!

Next:"The Archetypes of the Universl Uncouncous by C.G. Jung"

Ok, you forgot the 'a' again, but, huh? Wha?
What is Uncoucous? Was that something going on in Saltsburg Austria during the Nazi invasion? I think I heard that word in the Sound of Music.

Next:"The Sociology of Philisophies: A Global History of Intellectual Change
by R. Collins"

Philisophies, some greek character, I presume.

Next:"Smiling Through the Cultural Catastrophy: Toword the Rivival of Higher Education by J.P. Hart'

Well, foword march! (I think that's supposed to be 'toward')

Next:"An Intellegent Persons Guide to Modern Culture by R. Scrunton

Oh! Oh! Oh! This is one of my favorites! That should be "intelligent". Tee hee.

Next:"The Eurpeans Miracle: Envioronments, Economies and Geopolitics in the
History of Europe and Asia by E.L. Jones"

Are you sure they want to be called that?

Next:"From Hunters to Farmers: The Causes and Consiquences of Food"

Ahh, but what are the consequences of bad spelling and pointing our nasty little fingers at others' measley little typos? Hmmm? I ask you.

Next:"Ancient Neart East "
Never heard of it.

Next:"The Alphabet Affect by R. Logan"
This one I could be wrong on, because affect, and effect mess me up- but I question if this shouldn't be effect.

Next:"Rubish! The Archaeology of Garbage R. Rathje"

That's two B's in rubbish, you rube!

Next:"Bones of Contention: Contraversies in the Search for Human Origins by R. Lewin"

ContrAversies? You rebel, you. Spelling is hell.

Next:"The Indian Ocian: A History of the People and the Sea by K. McPherson"

Dyslexics of the world, untie!

Next:"The Archieving Society by D.C. McClellen"

What? Are they allowed to do that?

And finally, the difficulties of the words
Architecture
and
Medieval

I was wondering if different countries spell these things differently. Or keeping with our theme, are you a really bad speller?

Archetecture: The Natural and the Man Made by V.J. Sclili

Space, Time and Archetecture: The Growth of a New Tradition by S. Gideon

The Art and Archetecture of Islam by S.S. Blair

Archetecture for the Poor: An Experiment in Rural Egypt by H. Fathy (Oh! How quaint!)

But wait! An anomaly:
"Russia: The Architecture for World Revolution by E. Lissitsky"

Hmm....

Now for Medieval:

Not all the examples are here from the book list, I had to leave some out, there were too many.

Will the real Medieval please stand up?

The Mideivel Mind by H.O. Taylor
Midieval Prostitution by J. Rossland
Historiography: Ancient, Medieval, Modern by E. Breisach

Money and It抯 Use in Midievel Europe by P. Sufford

A World Lit Only By Fire: The Medieval Mind and The Renaissance
Portrait of an Age by W. Manchester

Well whatever.

Let's not talk about renaissance , either.
This post can't go on forever.
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Hey, no thanks needed, Barukh. !
 
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Wonderful. Find a hobby.
 
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Wonderful.

Answer posts directly instead of pointing out typos.

Noam Chomsky teaches linguistics in the classroom. He is not to be lumped in with those lowering educational standards.

You tell on yourself with this kind of stuff.
 
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lol....
 
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Big Grin GOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAL!
And what a beautiful one it was! the stadium roars!
The-re-sa! The-re-sa! Big Grin
 
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Hahaha.


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Don't worry, I tend to make a big deal out of everything.
Keep on keeping on.
 
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First of all, English is a second language for me. Would you please write some grammatically perfect posts in Hebrew?


Second, the bibliography was something I had written for myself and thus didn't care too much about the spelling. I sat in my office before I gave the books out and just typed it up as quick as I could. The list, in the font and size I had used totalled to just under 100 pages. So words like medieval, renaissance, consequences and architecture (which are among the most commonly misspelled words) were wrong.

Sue me.

You didn't misspell words like that. You misspelled Brad Pitt. You not only fucked up Brad Pitt, you had it so it was on every single one of your posts. You must have looked your posts, no? You must have seen the word Bradd Pitt at least a dozen times..

You went from telling me how brilliant of a linguist Noam Chomsky is, to misspelling the tongue twister Brad Pitt
 
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THen again, words like medieval are slightly more important than Brad Pitt.

Besides which, all she did was to turn around and criticize you in the same kind of arrogant, vitriolic style in which you have criticized other people multiple times. You lowered the standard yourself Barukh. So live with it.

Of course, we could just decide to go back to the nice civilized converations we had before. How about it?
 
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'Besides which, all she did was to turn around and criticize you in the same kind of arrogant, vitriolic style in which you have criticized other people multiple times.'

That's how the world works. Deal with it.
 
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That was my whole point. Read the whole paragraph, ok?

I do think, however, that we could go back to discussing in a nicer tone with each other. So what if everybody doesn't agree on the same books, politics or ideologies? That doesn't mean that we have to insult each other.
 
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Barukh, that was in my signature, and do you honestly think I misspelled Brad? Or maybe hit the D twice?

I understand that English is your second language. You deserve what you got, you know good and well that was a typo and were avoiding my post, so stop whining.

And I KNEW that excuse was coming about the bibliography. Those aren't the only things that I pointed out.

A signature is printed on every post. I didn't see the extra D my eye skipped over it. For more examples of things that our eyes miss, see your mistakes above.

You're just proving here that you SO deserved this.

English isn't your problem, so I don't have to write a thing in Hebrew.

But if I continually acted like a Butt nugget on some Hebrew message board with BAD Hebrew, and then acted superior because someone hit an extra key in Hebrew, then I would be a pretty big Turkey sandwich waiting to get eaten, now wouldn't I?
 
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I didn't 'act superior' I just pointed out that you had somehow managed to mis-spell Brad Pitt.

You seem to be very embarrassed about it. I don't blame you.

Lots of people speak 'bad Hebrew,' it can be a very difficult language to speak correctly. But if you were going on about linguisitics and 'intellectual dishonesty,' then mis-spelled a very simple word that you see every time you make a post, people would tell you. Just like I did

It wasn't an excuse, it was an explanation. This is what happened and why.
 
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Barukh,

Now, do you honestly believe that someone should be embarassed about that?


I personally don't think that a typo is a big deal, like, at all, which was the WHOLE point of all of this! And it certainly has nothing to do with linguistics.

I know what you were doing, it was a carpe diem momment, except, not seize the day, but seize the opportunity.
You also don't seem to get people's points very well.

You had just posted your typical rant about professors and included Noam Chomsky, and I wanted to know HOW he belongs in your post?

I still do, whether I know how to spell Brad or not.



I still want to know how Noam Chomsky fits in with that post, and I don't care if I never spell anything correctly, that has nothing to do with it.
 
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Slip, we posted at the same time.
 
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