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Any thoughts here on this interesting story?

Either one big hoax, or - when will this be on the cover of every magazine, and then after 6 years or before then - what will happen?


http://www.blog.com.np/2006/01/23/ram-bahadur-bomjan-the-buddha-boy

http://www.livescience.com/othernews/051214_buddha.html

Lots more links in here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_Bomjon

latest - Jan 2006
http://www.kantipuronline.com/feature.php?nid=63824

everything is buddha

and anyone practicing deep meditation correctly can control their bodies on some pretty unique levels, all resulting in feats that appear to be "superhuman."

ascetics have, for many years, trekked into the himalayas to meditate in bitter cold that would kill anyone who wasnt... "prepared."

Its sad that they have turned someones personal journey into a spectacle. But perhaps it will turn "positive" results.

I can buy that. But can a mystic/human not eat food and drink water (And emanate light apparently at times) for 6 years? And reputudely shake off a cobra bite? And sit in the same position?

Heck - why 6 years? Why not 5? Why not 4? 3? Those would be impressive enough.

The one who is commonly known as 'Buddha' today - Gautama only went 49 days and that was with eating I think.
Heck - Jesus went to the desert for only 40 days and nights reputedly.


There is this story of a mystic. Supposedly he got 100ml of water to wash his mouth I read somewhere else. He spit it back out and they measured it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3236118.stm

How Long Can Someone Survive Without Water?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,,1656867,00.html

I've been to Kandy, Sri Lanka, the location of Buddha's Tooth (They only show it once every 7 years) and was quite skeptical of that as well as many things I encountered in India/Nepal. I'm skeptical of many things in America too for the record. I'm skeptical in general.

But this story seems different. And it is getting attention and investigation.

At the very least this boy is sitting day in and day out in the same position for 12 hours (If not up to 24) straight without moving or eating/drinking. That itself is impressive. That much is known and can be proven.

The wikipedia article notes an investigation team studied him for 48 hours and found no eating or drinking at night. Why only 48 I don't know.

I reckon the truth will come out soon enough. Whatever it is. What it will mean -- that's why I'm asking the question.

I really do think something like that is possible. anything is possible.. you can search the internet for some people doing some amazing things with their bodies. There have been books written about a 'guru' who was able to set fire to paper with his hands, and apparently levitate (i cant remember the book specifically, but i can find out if you want to read into it). I think, when you leave the duality of 'possible/impossible' some very interesting things happen..

Many have claimed things. Under the scrutiny of light - fradulent or delusional. Plenty of magicians out there.
Lots of tricksters.


This one is being watched closely. And it is getting more interesting.

The Age (Australia) - Holy or Hoax

Have a few more video links will post later. Would like to see the one noted above.

And also..mystic or not...the world is in a shitty condition and getting worse. If not at war or enslaving others, then destroying all other life on the planet.
Global warming or not.

So -- show me the money. If the next coming of ANYONE doesn't make a serious dent in making the world 'better' - or provide a different existence, then it really doesn't matter I believe.

I will be maintaining all the information I find here:

http://www.circusoflife.com/Main/Buddha_Boy.htm

Notable articles highlighted. Links to 3 video clips.

1 BBC, 1 indy - 2 Americans I think/maybe Brits, and 1 from an outfit called HKNepal.com

quote:

Many have claimed things. Under the scrutiny of light - fradulent or delusional. Plenty of magicians out there.
Lots of tricksters.

correct, though public scrutiny will not always reveal such things. and the power of the combined realities of the "tricked" should not be disregarded so quickly!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0892818131/102-9902628...11?v=glance&n=283155

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00000I1T...628-6112111?v=glance

i cant stop saying it, but anything is possible! Because some are "tricks" is irrelevant to whether or not it is possible. we live in an age where we are able to hear about such "buddha boy's," though there are many beautiful, amazing people out there. and none need to be idolized!

Thanks for the links.

I have a copy of the Mystic Fire Ring of Fire DVD set(recent release). I have yet to watch it. I guess I should make a point of doing that soon.

http://www.mysticfire.com/index.html?cart=1140641174103741

Even if I assume that some of the things mentioned are possible (In the Magus book)...starting fire by hands, etc...that still won't change what the BB could represent.

Before I say any more, I will shut up and watch the DVDs.

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that still won't change what the BB could represent

could you please expand on that?

Sinahptik,

I just watched part of the 2-DVDs. 5 episodes - saw the first two in entirety, then watched half of East of Krakatoa.

Wow.

The demonstration is mind blowing. Channeling electricity like an electric eel?

If he (John Chang) didn't do the newspaper burning bit it would be hard for me to believe. Given that the footage is also from the 70s/early 80s makes it even more real as for the present day has so many video special effects trickery out there. While I have no reason to doubt the presenters, the only other explanation/trickery I can possibly imagine is some chemical reaction from something on the newspaper vs his fingers. But then he does cure the infection, and give a shock, etc...

I'll have to find the book.

I wonder why such power has not made more news? (A video - No Such Thing - comes to mind)

Of note - he does not say it is supernatural, just something he learned in 18 years of mediatation. He says anyone can do it. His humility about it makes it even more real.
I'll have to watch again.

Perhaps it is just an untapped/lost skill? Many skills have come and gone throughout time.

ok...so he can burn a newspaper, but could he burn clothes off his body with no burn marks?
Besides - the BB is only 15/16 years old. How much training could he possibly have had?

I also thought I read somewhere BB said "God" (Whatever that means) gave him a message and he would not reveal it until later.

As for what BB could represent - well then I would have to start explaining an incident that landed me in the hospital in December. A few booties heard part of my little tale. I won't even try and bother to explain it unless in person. It sounds ridiculously crazy. But...so does what is happening with BB - at least to me, IF it is true. And BB played a part in my event.

If we asked any human in 1850 what the world would look like in 150 years - I think anybody who said it would look like the world we live in today would have been sent to an asylum. Let alone trying to explain to someone WW I and II in 1900. Then nuclear power, etc...

Maybe the best way to characterize my thoughts is that if prior centuries are known for exploration, slavery, etc...and 20th century - industry / materialism (for some anyway)/ globalization, then perhaps the 21st century will go down as the age of enlightenment. Spiritual enlightenment. Literally. No more religion as we know it because there will be no question or doubt about the truth. Billions will be wrong about what they believe.

And if that ain't true...most (Or the youngest) are toast due to global warming. I don't think enough people truly understand how just a few degrees change in overall global temperature can really muck things up. And if they did, mass selfishness/pride would still reign supreme and the masses wouldn't change their behavior.

http://www.mysticfire.com/frmst_single.html?sku=76496&cart=1140937458153508

Just realized the clip that we are talking about - a man using internal force/qi/energy to burn a newspaper, etc...
it's online!

Click the link above and scroll down to the East of Krakatoa hi-res preview. You'll need Quicktime installed.

Mystic Fire is the same outfit that puts out the highly credible Power of Myth.

According to United We Blog, Ram Bahadur Bomjon is missing!!!

circus, i am glad you watched that video! He is *certianly* not the only one to have such "powers" though. It is my belief (and i would assume his, but you know what they say about assuming!) that everyone is capable of it. It is nothing special, at least not in the sense that some are entitled while others can never hope to aspire to as much. Thinking such things are "impossible" will inevitably form our reality to reinforce that. and in thinking its impossible, one will certainly never be able to perform such feats (for obvious reasons!)

like i said, and apparently the sig in the post above me says as well

"I think, when you leave the duality of 'possible/impossible' some very interesting things happen.. "

circus, perhaps i threw that out there, without explaining. are you familiar with "duality?"

And now...I have no doubt...this is what will happen.

http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/12-26-04.asp

The proof is in the pudding and it's almost ready to eat.
Just watch the news...

It has always been and will be PRIDE BEFORE THE FALL.

Except, this fall has a different ending.

the end of this sun is dec 21 2012; according to the mayan calendar. its interesting how those religions have agreed on this event, though it does not say a month or day, the years correspond. we all have to see it for ourselves though, intervention or not, we have to pull off our own blinders. simply because we are the ones that put them there in the first place.

Here are more interesting reads and facts.

Stem Cell Faked (Seattle Times)
Hmm...right during my time in the hospital.

DNA Nebula spotted in Galactic Center - Mar 15 (Hey publicized...while the BB went missing....hmmm...)

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060315_dna_nebula.html

Celestine Prophecy Book - good metaphor of the future perhaps. Now out as a movie. www.celestinevision.com

Hmm...NY Freedom Tower to be finished in 2012. A testimony to pride that is to be destroyed? Can't say right now...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayan_Calendar

http://www.gaianxaos.com/2012.htm (Nice/decently clear analysis among a crowd of 'theorists')

Buddha comes BEFORE enlightenment. 2011.

It will be a fun ride....that's if you have no pride. For pride leads to fear, anger, jealousy, over-attachment, and a host of other bad shit. But, how to eliminate pride....that is another post, if anyone cares.

Proof in the pudding. No need to believe me. Just watch the news. The seeds have already been planted. The Iran controversy is just warming up. Those are the seeds of the main event. Global warming and other things in the news are just side shows.

China/Taiwan conflict and Princess Di crash investigation are also interesting. London Olympics 2012....the world will be watching.

Oh yeah...BB re-appeared and disappeared again on Mar.19 - last day of Winter, the day before Spring Equinox. I was oddly enough at Chichen-Itza in Mexico on the equinox on March 20. And at Tikal (Largest Mayan site) on March 12.

hehhehehh. I must sound like a madman. Oh yes...I am mad!
Enough for now...connect the dots for yourself.

stop talking about pudding! i love the stuff and i dont have any damnit!

the wikipedia is good, but incomplete (in one way at least). the end of the sun is quite possibly the "end of the world" however, it is more clearly stated as the "end of the world as we know it." previous examples are "noahs" flood, and the meteorite. it does not necessarily mean armageddon, but rather a change so drastic, the world will never be the same. and quite possibly including the eradication of mankind, more likely than not through the actions of mankind.

War Clouds (LA Times)

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-br...ews-comment-opinions

Tor M1 Air Defense System
http://www.defense-update.com/products/t/tor.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SA-15_Gauntlet

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Sorry your serving is yet to come Sinahptik. Perhaps you'll get some before others. I don't know.

I have no doubt, it will not be the end of the world, but some kind of transformation or convincing external force. Just as described in the article. Not sure about this UFO stuff mentioned. I don't know. Based on what occurred to me I can only confirm this Tibetan outlandish claim as the outline.

Regardless of what you believe, as the link above shows...we are headed toward something ugly (again, for the umpteenth time in our ridiculous human history)

Frankly...it all sounds hokey to me - the Tibetan claim, and my own. But, I know what happened to me - which I don't expect anyone to believe.

The way many people live their lives seems hokey to me too, regardless of supernatural/religious stuff. Different strokes...and no, I don't like the sarcastic arrogance of the flying spaghetti believers either.

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I just watched Celestine Prophecy the movie, it's interesting. I have a good feeling about some of it, but other parts of it just seem too hokey and contrived. I don't know. Just my guy instinct (Wait...that's what you're supposed to rely on...) It's a fun story I reckon.

Time to shut up again, as I've gotta clean the pudding
off my face after it fell into the bowl.

More Tor M1 Iran based stories...

But here it is with varying levels of analysis:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4932814.stm

http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/opinion/editorials/060426b.shtml

http://www.mmorning.com/ArticleC.asp?Article=3507&CategoryID=6

http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,,1762953,00.html

http://www.ibnlive.com/news/iran-gets-russian-air-defence-missiles/8736-2.html


Oh yeah...Pride also causes greed (More and more) and a thirst for power. In fact,it is the root of power going mad.
Doesn't seem to bother alot of people - after all they worship their huge machines, sports stars, and celebrities.
And worship CEOs and their outlandish pay. blah blah blah

People worship what they fear (Christ and perfection?)....or envy (Which is pride based too)

I was wrong earlier about the seeds in a way...the seeds are a misunderstanding of the power of pride - which goes WAY back. But for my reference, the Iran story is the most recent incarnation.

Well..getting tired again from the jet lag. I need some fireworks to wake me up.

i wouldnt say pride is an issue whatsoever. attachment to said pride is a larger issue.

you sound like a preacher