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Malaysia or Indonesia?

Postby sunnybuns » November 1st, 2009

Okay, so I am going for a university field school to Southeast Asia, and we finish up on the 14th March in Ho Chi Minh City. I wanted to travel for a few weeks after than and was wondering what anyone suggests/recommends? I really want to head to Indonesia but only if it's fairly cheap to travel to there. My second option is Malaysia. I don't know much about Southeast Asia and if anyone knows any must see places..let me know! Thanks. Oh and I will be visiting the following places as part of my field school:

Pattaya (visiting White Lotus Press)-2 days
Koh Chang - 3 days
Chiang Mai - about 1 month
Luang Prabang (via Mekong River) 4 days
Hanoi - (visiting museum of ethnology and history/arts museum) - 6 days
Cao Bang (via Thai Nguyen) - 3 days
Lang Son - 3 days
Hue - 2 days
Nha Trang - 2/3 days
Phan Rang - 2 days
Ho Chi Minh City - 5 days
Phu Quoc - 3 days, return to Saigon

I know I'm not spending very long in any place except Chiang Mai but I figure if I love a certain place, I can always come back and visit it in the future :)
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Re: Malaysia or Indonesia?

Postby soulrebel » November 7th, 2009

You can't lose! I love both.

In Malaysia I especially loved the Perhentian Islands - glorious scuba diving and paradise beaches. The country as a whole is highly developed, but some of those budget accommodations can be shocking (especially in KL).

Indonesia is larger, wilder, and yes, cheaper. Also the most incredible scuba diving.

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Re: Malaysia or Indonesia?

Postby Flackattack » November 8th, 2009

I second the call for the Parhentian Islands. One of the best places I never heard of prior to my last trip. Can also say positive things about the Cameron Highlands and Malaka. Take the free tour of the skybridge between the Petronas Towers in KL. Have fun.
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Re: Malaysia or Indonesia?

Postby elAdi » November 11th, 2009

We are currently in Western Aceh (Sumatra, Indonesia) and have already spent 5 month in the archipelago (Flores, Sulawesi, Kalimantan, Sumatra). I've been to Peninsular Malaysia and we've also spent two months in Malaysian Borneo. My vote goes for Indonesia hands down: it's much more of an adventure, the people are more friendly and it's also cheaper (with the exceptions of far off the beaten track places like in the middle of Kalimatan or Papua and Aceh). Make sure you focus on one section only - say Northern Sumatra or Southern/Central Sulawesi.

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Re: Malaysia or Indonesia?

Postby cayce » November 11th, 2009

It depends on what you want out of your trip because despite what most people think, Malaysia and Indonesia are very different countries: food, culture, etc. If you want more of a jungle experience, Malaysia, despite being more developed than Indonesia, has retained its national parks/reserves much better. Indonesia is an 'adventure' because infrastructure is so bad, and little people out of the city centers speak English. Exciting for some but if you only have a short amount of time, you'd probably won't see the best of Indonesia.

Ironically, I don't think travelling in Indonesia is all that cheap. It costs me twice as much to get out of Kalimantan to Jakarta, than to fly from Jakarta to Kuala Lumpur. Perhaps when you are in one place, then it is cheap but getting to your far-flung destination is not that cheap, unless you're willing to travel via ferry but then again, that eats up a lot of your travelling time.

As for 'friendliness', elAdi, I'd like to hear more of your thoughts on this. My perspective is that most Malaysians are already used to white travellers, and don't fawn over them as much. It's not to say that we're unfriendly. I have heard of stories of Indonesians going out of their way to be incredibly (genuine I'm sure) nice to western travellers - this traveller recently told me that he was amazed how strangers he just met would host him and buy him all kinds of food. I'm just skeptical that they would do the same thing to non-western travellers. Cest la vie.
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Re: Malaysia or Indonesia?

Postby elAdi » November 12th, 2009

I agree, Malaysians are more used to western tourists, which - in my opinion - makes them more withdrawn than Indonesians. I dunno, maybe it's the fact that we're on bicycles that triggers the hospitably in Indonesians. Maybe it's me being a bule. Either way, we are often invited in for coffee, have been given free food on top of mountains and half of the time when we fill up our water bladders at Depots Air Minum, we get it for free. We have friendly conversations every day and Indonesians always have smile for us. The warmest welcome we received in Borneo, was by an Indonesian gate keeper to a palm oil plantation and his wife.
One thing that irked me in Borneo was, that people would simply not listen to us, when we spoke Bahasa. They always dismissed it and waited for us to speak English - although most of the time that resulted in them saying that they didn't speak English. I know, it's a small thing...but it's one of many that made Borneo a very frustrating experience for us, especially after having spent three months in Indonesia before.

I need to point out, that things are a bit different here in Western Aceh. Sharia Law has its obvious effect on what people think of us, especially because everybody thinks that my wife is Indonesian. She gets a lot of leering and/or frowning. At me they still all smile. ;) Getting into hotels seems to be a bit of a problem. Good thing we brought our marriage certificate. (We had to show it before, in South-Eastern Sulawesi).

It's all always subjective. These are the experiences we have made over the past 7 months.

You're definitely correct on the cheapness subject. It's cheap once you're in the country - and if you stay away from the tourist hotspots like Bali.
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Re: Malaysia or Indonesia?

Postby Christopher Marr » November 13th, 2009

It depends on you. But I think Malaysia is great. There are a lot of beautiful place and beach such as langkawi, sabah beach. In particular Parhentian Islands is wonderful. Have fun.
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