We taught English in Japan many years ago and really enjoyed it. We'd been to Japan several times before and had studied the language, but living somewhere is a different experience than taking a vacation there. We were in a small town, which was interesting in many ways, but got old after awhile. Almost every time I left the house, I would meet someone who would gasp with the shock of meeting a foreigner. (This was 20 years ago in a small town in Kyushu.) I think, in retrospect, I would have preferred Fukuoka City to Fukuoka Prefecture.
If you are Asian-American, you'll blend in much better than I did. (I'm blonde.) I would have loved being incognito sometimes. On the other hand, lots of Japanese people were eager to be my friend and introduce me to people and cultural experiences. They indulged my mistakes when I spoke their language because it was so obvious that I was foreign and couldn't be expected to know better. Several Asian-Americans that I knew in Japan, or have talked with since then, have said that their students and neighbors didn't extend the same courtesies to them. They didn't seem so foreign or exotic, so people weren't as excited to get to know them. Sometimes when they made mistakes -- or didn't speak Japanese at all -- people would have no patience, as if having a Japanese heritage (or an Asian face -- some were Korean-Americans, for instance) meant that they should intuitively know more than they did.
Even if you are working, you'll have a different part of the world as a springboard for your travels. We went all over Kyushu on weekends, and we went to a few places in Shikoku for New Year's. We took trips to South Korea and China during our year-long stint, and we spent 6 weeks traveling through Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, and Thailand before returning to the U.S.
JET is a mixed bag. For one, you don't get to choose where you are sent. My then-boyfriend/now-husband and I wanted to be in the same location, and they don't (or at least didn't) accommodate that for non-married couples. Also, we were especially interested in Kyushu, and placements are limited there. We had better luck going to Japan on tourist visas, finding jobs through the newspaper, and then leaving the country to visit a Japanese embassy/consulate and be issued a work visa. Also, some of the long-term English teachers in schools really appreciate having a JET teacher to help them, and others resent having one foisted on them. As you can imagine, a JET teacher's experience varies quite a bit, based on how well they end up getting along with their fellow teacher.
GEOS, AEON, etc. can be a mixed bag too. They tend to exert a lot of control over what you teach and how you teach it. People who had been trained in education tended to resent that, but people who were brand new to teaching tended to like it, because it was easy to jump into.
We were at a private school, where the reverse was true. We had a lot of freedom in what we taught, which was good for people with experience (or good instincts and a willingness to work hard) but bad for people who needed guidance. So that's a mixed bag too!
Good luck!
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VickyLynn
I have been looking into this however I do not have a degree and everything I am finding would require me to have one. Anyone know where they hire without college degrees?
Hideo
My girlfriend at the time got a teaching job in Japan without a degree. She used the website www.gaijinpot.com to search and apply for jobs and got an interview and a job through one of them. This was with a small private school, not JET or any of the larger conversation schools.
However, this wouldn't get her a full work visa. She went to Japan on a working holiday visa, valid for 12 months from the time of entry. While there her employer sponsored her application for a full work visa, based on the fact that she was in the job. This was turned down, presumably with the lack of a degree being the determining factor.
So it is possible to get a job without a degree if you don't just apply to JET or the main conversation schools, but not so easy to get a work visa. That's not to say that it wouldn't be possible to get a work visa without a degree - this was just the one case I know about.
However, this wouldn't get her a full work visa. She went to Japan on a working holiday visa, valid for 12 months from the time of entry. While there her employer sponsored her application for a full work visa, based on the fact that she was in the job. This was turned down, presumably with the lack of a degree being the determining factor.
So it is possible to get a job without a degree if you don't just apply to JET or the main conversation schools, but not so easy to get a work visa. That's not to say that it wouldn't be possible to get a work visa without a degree - this was just the one case I know about.
"The journey of a thousand miles begins with just one step."
TEFLXpat
Teaching English abroad is a great way to see the world while earning enough income to support your travels. Of course, certain countries pay more than others, but the service is always in demand as countries always seem to be innovating. Personally, I earned my TEFL certification in Prague, Czech Republic and had plans to teach in Spain, Germany, and Italy (where my roots are), but I ended up happily employed in Prague. With my certification, I make enough money to take weekend trips and pay rent, but not really enough to save. If you want to save money, I'd recommend going to Asia, most notably South Korea.
From the experiences of my friends and co-workers here in Europe, it's a great idea to earn your certificate overseas, so then you can get the ball rolling and start teaching right after you earn your certificate. So far, I've gone to Munich, small town throughout the Czech Republic, Bratislava, Budapest, Warsaw, and London, and I have more plans to visit other places such as Istanbul Turkey, Ljubljana Slovenia, and more.
If you want to do this, I'd recommend researching TEFL Certification programs as well as legal requirements from each country. Speaking from experience, I can assure you that it's a lot of fun and really allows you to get to know yourself and immerse yourself in other cultures. The program I got certified with is TEFL Worldwide Prague, and is definitely worth checking out!
-Justin (TEFLXpat)
From the experiences of my friends and co-workers here in Europe, it's a great idea to earn your certificate overseas, so then you can get the ball rolling and start teaching right after you earn your certificate. So far, I've gone to Munich, small town throughout the Czech Republic, Bratislava, Budapest, Warsaw, and London, and I have more plans to visit other places such as Istanbul Turkey, Ljubljana Slovenia, and more.
If you want to do this, I'd recommend researching TEFL Certification programs as well as legal requirements from each country. Speaking from experience, I can assure you that it's a lot of fun and really allows you to get to know yourself and immerse yourself in other cultures. The program I got certified with is TEFL Worldwide Prague, and is definitely worth checking out!
-Justin (TEFLXpat)
VickyLynn
Thanks Justin, I have my TESOL certification. I really would love to do what you are doing and go from place to place maybe for a year at a time. I still find the problem to be that I do not have a formal degree. The funny thing is most don't even care what the degree is, just that you have one so I don't understand the point. I have some college background and many years of teaching experience as well as years in corporate management. You would think these things would count for something.
busman7
As this thread is 3 1/2 years old it's too late for the OP.
However for any other females wondering the same, try Phnom Penh where if you don't mind teaching kindergarten, being a white female trumps a degree any day.
However for any other females wondering the same, try Phnom Penh where if you don't mind teaching kindergarten, being a white female trumps a degree any day.
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VickyLynn
I don't know how to take that comment Busman..I almost feel like that should scare me..I would love teaching Kindergarten but why does being a white female mean so much..and is there any place you suggest I look..
busman7
VickyLynn wrote:I don't know how to take that comment Busman..I almost feel like that should scare me..I would love teaching Kindergarten but why does being a white female mean so much..and is there any place you suggest I look..
Sorry didn't mean to offend, basically it's marketing as a white native English speaker from a North American/western European country is looked upon (rightly or wrongly) as a better teacher. Most schools will only hire females to teach kindergarten & a degree will be overlooked as long as you have a TEFL.
Also Cambodia has much simpler work visa rules than other SE Asian countries.
For general info on Cambodia check http://www.khmer440.com/chat_forum warning this forum is pretty irreverent but a fun read.
For a sampling of jobs check out http://www.bongthom.com in addition to teaching there are also NGO jobs that could be interesting.
Anything else just ask
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